Just days after the Joolya Gillard had a moan
about norty little backbenchers leaking to those devils incarnate otherwise
known as the ‘medja’, we get one of the biggest political ‘leaks’ and smear
jobs in memory. And this one you can bet
was set up by the Prime Minister herself.
Also, the unusual spectacle of a person
helping out in a disaster aftermath situation copping Nanny State criticism in The Daily
Astonisher from the most unlikely person.
On the local government scene, a new start
for Mayor Mullet? – a controversial plan for her personal development is floated in an effort to bring harmony to Walker Street.
All that and lots of other stuff you can
skip over here in this week’s nest at www.townsvillemagpie.com.au
Poor old Bentley.
Our ‘toon-meister has been down with a cold, but he’s also been frothing at the mouth over the Nanny State edict of the week – kids in kindy should not blow out candles on their birthday cakes, because the other little snots might catch their germs sprayed over the communal cake. The suggestion is that on their birthdays, the little darlings bring a cupcake with a single candle for themselves, and enough other cup cakes for their chums. The ickle girls won’t mind, the female of the species has never been averse to retarding their age, so staying 'one' until the age of five or six will be an early-learning experience in that art.
Our ‘toon-meister has been down with a cold, but he’s also been frothing at the mouth over the Nanny State edict of the week – kids in kindy should not blow out candles on their birthday cakes, because the other little snots might catch their germs sprayed over the communal cake. The suggestion is that on their birthdays, the little darlings bring a cupcake with a single candle for themselves, and enough other cup cakes for their chums. The ickle girls won’t mind, the female of the species has never been averse to retarding their age, so staying 'one' until the age of five or six will be an early-learning experience in that art.
It’s already been put down as theoretically
correct but ultimately a dopey edict that will stop kids building up a natural
fighting immunity too most but not all common germs, the exceptions being the likes of Craig Thompson, Alan
Jones and James Ashby.
Bentley has looked into the playroom of the
future.
Now to the national scene, and that political leak that was more a
bursting dam of non-specific accusations about all sorts of dire
deeds in the Australian sporting world.
This little hootenanny was arranged by the government – you know, that government that won’t be campaigning until August, the government that will stick to governing until then and shun any base political electioneering. Yes, that government.
Led by not one but two federal ministers,
backed up by some pissed off-looking federal wallopers and sports administrators,
we were regaled with tales of dangerous derring do undercover work and teasing
half-revelations of dastardly deals involving drugs, match-fixing and
international crime cartels. Phew, pass the smelling salts.
Sports Minister Kate Lundy, a vaguely Sarah Palin look-a-like, then hung faux tough
with a well-rehearsed message for wrongdoers wanting to peddle dope or fix matches.
‘You will be caught,’ she squeaked, in one of the most dubious statements since
‘no carbon tax under my government’.
Then Labor comer Justice Minister Jason Clare hopped in
for his chop, producing his rod and reel for one of the funniest fishing
expeditions since Moby was no bigger than a dick. Flexing his ministerial mandate
and insider status, he said ‘don’t underestimate how much we know, and if you
are involved in this, come forward now before you get a knock on the door’. That would be a bit hard, since we have been told anything to under or over estimate. However, Jason assured us we will all be ‘disgusted’ by what we will be told.
‘Will’!?!
Bloody ‘will’?
It is there that lies the dead giveaway of
political grandstanding with bugger all immediate substance, a premature headline grabber
for a political campaign that is well and truly underway.
In the entire bit of well rehearsed theatre,
not one person, athlete, doctor or baddie was named, not one single code or
team was named for specific wrongdoing and censure, not even a mention of which overseas
countries harbored the crims who are supposed to be fixing matches of unnamed
sports here. Not a single charge has been laid, but, oh, there will don’t you
worry your pretty little heads about that - we are assured we’ll be 'disgusted' when it all happens.
No evidence presented, no charges, no
nothing, just a lot of grandiose words – words aimed at making two government
ministers appear to be on top of this big issue.
What a con job!
You’ve got to hand it to Labor, they
realize that desperate times call for desperate measures, and didn’t we get
that in spades with this ‘Australia’s blackest day in sports’ malarkey.
The ‘Pie isn’t saying that nothing is going
on, you don’t have be Sherlock Einstein to know things are very wrong in some
areas of the sports ‘industry’ – but
what has flabbered the old bird’s gast is the blatant political put-up job this is.
Otherwise, why come out with this stuff when
essentially you’ve got nothing of substance to say, and just crank up the rumour and innuendo mill? Why use a broad-brush slur
across all Australian sport to create turmoil, disharmony, doubt and
despondency without one single solitary bit of hard fact, name, club, code or
specified crime?
In all probability, there are some hard
facts ahead, (there’d better be, if the government is to avoid more face egg) but
why not wait until things have been quietly achieved in the background before
all the ballyhoo? And doesn’t this political exercise in big-noting give some
of the wrongdoers the chance to scarper, or hide evidence or otherwise go to
ground?
Wouldn’t have anything to do with the 'non-campaigning' stance of the government, would it?
Cynical perhaps, but The ‘Pie will wager
there are some senior coppers down Canberra way fuming at the moment, because
they were leant upon to make early and incomplete statements about an on-going
investigation. All in the name of political posturing.
If ever a team sorely needed
performance-enhancing drugs, it is this stumble-bum Labor government. But on
available evidence so far, they won’t have to be paid to lose their next big
match, but if they win, the coalition will have to be swabbed big time.
A digression: the
Townsville dribblers, otherwise known as the Crocs basketball team would
seem to be in the clear of any pill popping … if they were on performance-enhancing
drugs this season, they got a dud batch.
But all this talk of corruption – in sport
and in the NSW Labor Party otherwise known as Obeid’s Opera – has got occasional Nest
doodler Johnny Flockwallpaper thinking dark thoughts. He seems to think there
might be just a touch of envy in many of the self-righteous commentators who
are ‘outraged’ by the carry-on.
Other matters.
Did you see the exasperated KRudd being
asked if he had the numbers for a leadership challenge now the election date
has been set?
‘Give me a break', he sighed, 'you should all go and
take a long, cold shower’. This reply of course then became the question
for everyone else interviewed by the media pack, all being asked what they
thought of the suggestion of the long cold shower.
It is unreliably reported that when a comely female reporter from the ABC
asked Craig Thompson, he whipped out his credit card and replied ‘Your place or
mine?’
But for The ‘Pie’s money, you’d have to
think Joolya would be safe in her position until the election. Like, who wants
to take over as captain of the Titantic after it has hit the iceberg? And seems
to keep backing up and ramming new icebergs by the hour?
No, one would expect that she’ll stay in
the job and then immediately quit politics after a telling defeat. Then and
only then will we find out if she is ‘a fit and proper person’ to practice law
again.
This telling makeover of a newspaper front
page has been around since the last election, but fair to say it reflects the
view of a majority of voters.
Perhaps the best cartoon on the issue came
from Alston in The West Australian.
Why would the most likely contender – no,
not KRudd but that little cockalorum of a bedroom bandicoot Bill Shorten – take
the helm of a sinking ship? The Short ‘Un will do his best to fly below the
radar until the election – not a difficult job for our vertically challenged Employment
Minister.
But somehow, it is Kevin Rudd who has been
in the media sights in the past week or so, but not all journos were focused on
his leadership possibilities.
Whether he’s sincere or not – and in a
community setting, there’s no reason to believe he’s other than fair dinkum - Kevin Rudd has been out helping others in recent disasters to affect his home
area. Personally, privately and hands on. But the cameras have sought him out,
wading through floodwaters, hefting ruined furniture, and in the latest round,
using a chainsaw to cut up fallen branches.
Most media saw this as community spirited
and fairly genuine, apart from linking KRudd’s efforts with punning speculation about
leadership challenges.
But that wasn’t the view of all journos,
including the Daily Astonisher’s John
‘Ando’ Andersen. In an uncharacteristically
snide little ‘two-bob each way’
yarn, Ando, a man of conservative
politics and not known for his Nanny State sympathies, unexpectedly latched
onto this photograph …..
….. and then picked up his poison pen to
write the following:
THEY'RE calling it the Hawthorne Chainsaw Massacre.
There he is in the Brissie floods last week, the man who would be PM (again),
dressed in blue business shirt, dark blue dress duds and black RMs, wielding a
chainsaw like a veteran lumberjack.
No safety leggings, no noise protectors, no
protective eye glasses, no hard hat, no steel-capped boots, no gloves, no
reflective vest. Of course we can assume the Member for Griffith has completed
all his proficiencies in chainsaw handling and has the certificates framed and
hanging on his wall. Yeah right, like I got a degree in rocket science and a
double major in brain surgery.
The ‘Pie doubts any in the rocket science
community feels threatened, although ‘brain
surgery’ ie the need thereof - could be an apt reference.
It’s not often you see someone helping out
in a disaster situation being dissed in the media for a cheap sarcastic larf,
and certainly not from someone like Ando.
But it was always going to be a space filler one way or the other: if KRudd
had declined to do any of his neighborly assistance because he lacked the
proper safety equipment, the headline would be something along the lines ‘Kevin
says his hands are tied by red tape’, and then Ando would be able to slam him
for sitting around amid the chaos and not acting like the Ando ideal of the
rugged rule-bending larrikin Aussie male.
Since someone last week in the comments
bemoaned the lack of Astonisher material in that blog, here’s a couple of more
matters to stave off any deprivation in that department.(And The Magpie simply
could not be bothered to comment on the warmed-over, ancient history drivel
about tunnels under Townsville – suffice to say, in an embarrassing climb-down,
the paper ‘revealed’ it was a well-known storm water drain and more or less
admitted that the only tunnel it was disappearing up was its own.)
But going back a bit on another matter
before it gets too long in the tooth, The ‘Pie wonders if anybody else was a
bit mystified at this Australia Day story about a Belgian Gardens couple who were
hosting their last Australia Day party in Townsville.
It was a party that the Daily Astonisher
ballyhooed as ‘the party to end all parties’, and ‘the stuff of Australia Day
legends’, which turned out to be the usual hyperbole of the first order. – 70
people hosted by a couple who are hardly household names of interest, an
unknown entertainer, and a bush poetry competition, (which may explain why only
70 people would turn up). The headline was, one supposes, a joke because after
eight years, the couple in question Rod and Julie Heffeman, were leaving town
for a new life on the Sunshine Coast.
Even by the standards of The Astonisher,
this was a real stretch, so The ‘Pie wondered what prompted this largesse of
space for such thin gruel.
A bit of digging on the web is always good
for the soul, so it turns out that Rod Heffeman is or was the local boss of Paradise Billboards, and by all reports, a
fine chap, too. No doubt he was chummy with the Bully , and one might surmise
that because he’d tipped off the paper to a story or two over the years, they
decided to give him their idea of a civic farewell.
Perhaps one such yarn may well have been
this one: back in May 2011, then Mayor Les Tyrell, a couple of Cowboys players
and an Ergon Energy pooh-bah were enlisted to pretend they were signwriting an
Ergon billboard with the colorful words Energy
Sense. The Paradise website boasts about it thus .....
But inattention to your website can be embarrassing
with the passage of time, 'cos we all know the devil is in the detail. See last words of second paragraph.
Just as well the guest sign-writers could
spell (well, at least two of them), which is more than can said for whomever
wrote the self-congratulatory puff piece on the Paradise website. In case that’s a bit small to read, here’s
the salient bit.
Fortunately, they didn't.
Now, if one had the time to troll the web, one could fill The Daily Astonisher with these sorts of slip-ups (oh, wait …). But it would seem that a company that makes its dough from plastering the place with words consisting of letters two metres high might lose a bit of credibility if they can’t get the fine print right. Let’s see how long it takes to be corrected.
Now, if one had the time to troll the web, one could fill The Daily Astonisher with these sorts of slip-ups (oh, wait …). But it would seem that a company that makes its dough from plastering the place with words consisting of letters two metres high might lose a bit of credibility if they can’t get the fine print right. Let’s see how long it takes to be corrected.
Which leads The ‘Pie to wonder what
happened to the person responsible for this (since removed) sign, spotted by the Cairns ... or is that the Carins ... Post.
Probably written in Birsbane.
But back to The Astonisher.
The ‘Pie is happy to report that close on
the heels of appearing to encourage kids to play dangerously in polluted floodwaters,
the Daily Astonisher soon afterwards decided on another tilt at water safety
with this pic.
It was very artful that the Smirnoff vodka
brand was prominent on all three cans. Wonder if the photographer is waiting
for his free case of Smirnoff mixers … it’s not often you can get a free (unpaid) advert
across the front of a paper.
But more to the point, one wonders if the
Royal Life Saving Society was impressed …
you can read here what they think about getting on the turps when out
frolicking in the water – the salient facts are that 20%of all adult drownings
involve alcohol, a figure that rises to 41% in the 15-29 age group, and the Society
believes the real figures are likely to be much higher because ‘alcohol is not
tested in all drowning deaths’.
One trusts that someone down in Ogden
Street is astonished.
Finally, another story in The Astonisher
caught the attention for a couple of reasons.
First, it set a new level for non-information.
The reporter, Brisbane-based Sunday Mail/Courier Mail Renee Viellaris (expect a lot more of this imported stuff from The Astonisher) breathlessly told of a Queensland jail manager who sent on sick leave when he suggested using the controversial (read deeply idiotic) American idea of ‘re-birthing inmates’. As Ms Viellaris reports:
The reporter, Brisbane-based Sunday Mail/Courier Mail Renee Viellaris (expect a lot more of this imported stuff from The Astonisher) breathlessly told of a Queensland jail manager who sent on sick leave when he suggested using the controversial (read deeply idiotic) American idea of ‘re-birthing inmates’. As Ms Viellaris reports:
’Rebirthing is a controversial alternative technique in which the subject
is wrapped in blankets and surrounded with pillows, which are then pushed to
mimic birth and help form new bonds. Children in the US have suffocated from
the practice.
The idea
was not supported (by other jail staff).
A
statement by Queensland Corrective Services (QCS) said "the option of
introducing rebirthing techniques was raised informally at officer level (by
the senior manager) however was not supported and did not proceed for formal
consideration".’
This is a story?
An unnamed senior officer having what amounts to a chat (‘raised informally’)
in an unnamed Queensland prison suggests a dopey idea, which was dismissed out
of hand. Perhaps it might have been almost a story if Viellaris had included a
few facts, like which prison, when this happened, even the name of the manager on 'gardening leave', you know, stuff that would
convince us mug punters this wasn’t a wafer thin space filler.
But even a little gold can be found in a
molehill of dross, and the gold here is the re-birthing idea is not without
merit, especially if applied to the local government political arena.
For instance, we all know our own Mayor Mullet has got off
on the wrong foot with some of her fellow councillors and TCC staff, and is
sorely in need of a new start – a sort of re-birthing. The aforementioned technique of
slinging her into a hammock, bandaging and blanketing her and surrounding her with pillows so
she could be shoved around enough to think she’s being reborn. This could
all be performed in the council forecourt, with the added Aussie ingenuity of
someone – Vern Veitch? Ray Burton? - ending the re-birthing rite by holding the
mayor up by the ankles, and inviting the public to give her the ‘smack of life’
on the bum – canoe paddles optional.
But if this does come about and you would
like to administer a mayoral smack yourself, you will need to go to Ingham –
that’s where the end of the queue will be.
Pie,
ReplyDeleteI'm concerned I'll get found out as a drug cheat in sports. I play netball. I take 8 fish oil tablets a day. Will you be dobbing me in?
2. Regarding the children drinking vodka image. Are the current photographers alcoholics by chance?
If not, they must think it's ok to promote this dangerous situation.
Photographers are visual communicators. This shot looks set up or if they were good shooters, they'd ask them kindly to remove them.
Considering the Daily Terror Graph is promoting a story on .....'CHILDREN as young as 12 will be breath-tested before being allowed into Sydney's first Good Life underage music festival. '
Why is it ok to promote alcohol visually on Australia Day?
Sagely Yours,
Miss Lou
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2012/04/14/322791_news.html
ReplyDeleteOne only has to look at this picture especially the bottom image to see the culture's direction in the photo dept.
150 refugees and we receive how many kiwis?
ReplyDelete39,800 in the July 2012 year, according to NZ goverment figures.
DeleteMind you, I am thinking of moving there. No snakes, no NQ summers, no Joolya - sounds like heaven on a stick. Plus the place will be near empty by the end of the decade.
Bad luck Grumpy.......definitely no Joolya, no NQ summers however two extremely venomous sea snakes! If you're going there only go above Auckland.....temperate - everywhere else is cold.
DeleteNo problems with the sea snakes. I will do the same deal with them that I have with the sharks here - I stay out of the ocean and they don't drink at my local. Worked so far...
Deleteand besides...if there are only two of them, chances are I won't meet either of them
DeletePie, I'm addicted to lawn bowls and Cracker Jack is my favourite movie . Will I get arrested?
ReplyDeleteOnly if you're on fish oil tablets and play sport.
DeleteI sometimes watch the tennis in my underpants enjoying a couple of smokes. Is this a federal offence? Should I close my curtains?
ReplyDeleteIf you're smoking fish oil smokes, I'd be very careful. I hope your undies are clean.
DeletePie mate..
ReplyDeleteAre the wheels still on the wagon? coz you made no mention of going to Posseurs to empty sacks, or get rocks off et al ......
Martin
Unlikely but possibly Poseurs ran out of vino......What a shocker!
DeleteRenee is aiming for Sunrise,I can tell.
ReplyDeleteA quick reminder what the Astonisher hid from their staff.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2012/09/15/360821_news.html
I would like to propose a nickname change for mayor mullet to Sargent Schultz "i know nothing"!Poor Jenny didnt know about the consultants report on staffing levels/didnt know the monthly profit reports were wrong and when asked about the 20% increase to parking fines to 1 Mil Jennys response"i wasnt aware of that".Exactly what is Jenny aware of?.I suppose when you threaten CMC and bring in the auditor general on some simply explained financials none of the TCC managers and staff will be telling Jenny anything!Culture is driven from the top which explains the TCC sick days being worse than most public service departments.
ReplyDeleteHa ha that's funny. The culture has been designed to fail.
DeleteAnd I forgot to mention that sometimes I have a multiple-vitamin with my All-Bran ... I hope they don't knock at an inconvenient time ... Bahahaha...
ReplyDelete"I don't take drugs" Lance Armstrong
DeleteI still want the stoush between Jenny Hill and Ray Burton made public, what have they got to hide.
ReplyDeleteBut Jenny Hill will move heaven and hell to keep it away for the ratepayers in Townsville.
If it goes public Townsville will soon realise that she is not so nice a person.
Another good read from the pie, just a shame we have to wait a week for the next instalment.
ReplyDeleteWhat is the chance of a autographed photo of the pie to put in my bar room, could you make this happen for me pie.
'Pie !! Will you stop ruining my fantasies! You know, the one I told you about before, involving Sarah Palin, Julie Bishop, Christine Kenneally, a desert island and myself (minus 25 years and 25 kilos - me, not the lassies, who are perfectly fine the way they are).
ReplyDeleteKate's breathless urgency and near hysteria in her press conference reminded me of a scatty schoolgirl dobbing on the boys smoking in the toilets.
The saddest day in Australian sport was the day that every player in every sport was exposed to public scorn and ridicule by a pair of gormless idiots on instruction from the Worst Prime Minister Ever.
Lord, I hope you are wrong about Shorten. He is a scoundrel. He is devoid of principles and will sacrifice anything and anyone in his quest for power (just ask his ex). Mind you, could be that slimy, smirking toad, Tony Burke - as my Dad says, "his eyes are too close to his nose and too far from his brain".
Ando...take a long, cold shower...have a close look at the photo...every time I use my chainsaw (and it is a real chainsaw, not that nancy-pancy 10" Bunnings toy in the picture), I almost instantly have my boots, legs and forearms covered in woodchips and sawdust. Kevin is pristine. It is a set up - just like that one of Anna Be-lie after the Brisbane floods. Standing calf-deep in her wellies amidst a pool of black muck, holding a teaspoon sized shovel with a dollop of mud, "doing her thing to help clean out flooded homes". Her white gloves and white jeans did not have a mark on them.
And we have eight months of this nonsense to come...
I take my fish oil tablets which enable me to swallow the crap produced in between the pages of the astonisher.
ReplyDeleteOld Bitter and Twisted! Does this poor group of clowns sit with you at a bar and send stories to each other. Just one bully after another. Throwing stones and kicking shins. A sad site with small minded people with big egoes. Then again that sounds like poor old Malcolm playing his flute with his followers in tow. That is the real entertainment reading the comments of the strokers.
ReplyDeleteThere, there, dear, don't fret, have a little lie down in a darkened room with a damp cloth on your fevered brow.
DeleteCome off it, Ando, you should know better than to lead with your chin.
'Throwing stones and kicking shins' should be engraved over the staff entrance of The Daily Astonisher, but when you get a bit of your own back, your hanky twisting, foot-stamping reponse is to ignore the message and aim at the messenger.
Interesting, too, is ' a sad site with small minded people with big egoes'; ho,ho, you old thigh slapper, you. You could be describing the average non-reader(a rapidly growing band) of The Bulletin's attitude towards the sad and sorrow publication for which you pick up your weekly 30 pieces of silver. But you might also like to note that that just about all the comments sent in to this blog come from regular commenters on your paper's letters page. They thank you for the free character reading.
Note: the plural of 'ego' is 'egos'.
Ando, looking for a job at Molendinar, are we? Or are you just a sensitive little sausage who can't take a little gentle ribbing? Or just a plain old-fashioned, self-opinionated jerk?
DeleteMost of the comments here are humerous, self-effacing and harmless remarks by (mostly) intelligent sounding people. Undeserving of your caustic bullshit vitriol.
Malcom has on at least several occasions spoken kindly of you. I have (until now) quietly disagreed with him. I have always considered you to be a wannabe sycophant. Now, I just think you are a girl's blouse.
Oh - on one passing occasion only have I met Malcom - he would not even remember it, it was that fleeting. I have never had a drink with him, although I would be proud to do so. So long as you were not in the bar.
Malcom...who does NOT read your blog at the Bully-Tin?
I think Ando has earned his stripes with decades of reporting on the region, particularly the bush. Give him a break, he has to earn a living. Simpo on the other hand is a dangerous idiot who will only leave Townsville in flames. Why was Simpo sitting with The Kipper at the Crocs game at Taxpayer expense? He should be forced to pay back the community and for his destructive reporting the council round. Simpo should be charged by the Press Council or AJA.
DeleteI used to read Ando. I'd like to think he's having a bad day. I guess not. You're right Grumpy.
DeleteAndo, if you think we're a bunch of 'alcoholics', I'm not.
Please come again and bring along Mrs Skene. You're more than welcome. This is a democratic blog. Is your paper?
Miss Lou.
Ando, I don't think Zako will take drinking cloud pixs on your away trip.
DeleteSurely, a sports reporter (senior sporty guy Spewy) from the Astonisher knew about the drug usage within the NQ Cowboy?
ReplyDeleteIt appears the local sports journos are only in Public relations 'story mode' since this doping revelation.
Well, hang on a sec.
DeleteWhat drug use, has The 'Pie missed some such announcement? What doping revelation? The 'Pie remains adamant that this a politically-inspired distractional exercise in broad brush slurs and innuendos - so far. And way too premature.
If you have solid information, shouldn't you step up and let the club know?
Although it goes against the dominant modus operandi of the Bulletin, It's a bit rough to suggest journalistic negligence when there is nothing to report.
Of course, there is the practicality that News Ltd's historical involvement with the Cowboys may have kept a lid on any knowledge of managerial drug naughtiness, if there was any. (And although that involvement has all but ended, remember that Cowboys stories still sell more papers than any other single subject.)
The only involvement with drugs that The Magpie has consistently heard of is a small coterie of Cowboys players who - some years ago - used to attend a particular (former) Palmer St restaurant, the owner of which was widely understood to be the go-to supplier of recreational whoppee pills and powder. There has never been any suggestion that this supplier (who has since moved on) dealt in more sophistcated performance-enhancing sports-style drugs, or that her activities affected the team performance (at least in any organised group sense).
Ok, thanks for that. That's why I read your blog.
DeleteCheers.
Fast food chains reveal kilojoules content in their food. I would like to see the media (Astonisher) do the same thing.
ReplyDeleteI would like them to reveal their images the following.
1. Where did the image come from (Public Relations press release, tip off, their own image idea, journalist arranged the image)
2. How they shot the image? Was it the photographer who captioned the image in the paper?
Why they photographed the image. Does the photographer believe in the image content? We only 'vaguely' see them. It needs to be transparent.
snapper
Stange, no Astonisher sports journo had covered the breaking doping scandal until today in the ville. Too much advertising at stake?
ReplyDeleteWhat will the ABC media call the 1300 smile stadium in Kirwan?
ReplyDeleteWill the Astonisher report it that way?